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Posted by Virus Guy on August 5, 2006, 5:43 pm
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bettersurfing@usersnospam.org wrote:
> My Netgear RP614v3 says it gives SPI and NAT protection and I
> don't see it blocking the trojans and spyware that Avast or ZA
> catches.
Your software firewall won't "catch" it either when it first comes
into and installs itself on your system. And the nasty stuff, like
root kits, will bypass your firewall like it wasn't even there.
Where do you surf? Geeze, I never get fun stuff like that.
You must not us a hosts file, or adaware/spybot/spyware blaster, or
update your Java, or maybe you're still running XP-SP1 (or XP-gold).
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Posted by Dustin on August 6, 2006, 6:09 pm
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> You must not us a hosts file, or adaware/spybot/spyware blaster, or
> update your Java, or maybe you're still running XP-SP1 (or XP-gold).
I don't use much of a hosts file, don't have adware/spybot/spyware
blaster running... Java is updated... :), and I am still running xp-sp1,
the benefits of sp2 weren't worth it to me.
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Dustin
Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool
Current Version: 1.9.1 Released July 28th, 2006
Last Pattern Update: August 2nd, 2006
http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk
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Posted by Virus Guy on August 7, 2006, 8:51 am
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> > ... or maybe you're still running XP-SP1 (or XP-gold).
>
> I don't use much of a hosts file,
Why not? It's free, and so are:
> don't have adware/spybot/spyware blaster running...
> Java is updated... :),
and have you uninstalled all older versions of Java?
> and I am still running xp-sp1, the benefits of sp2 weren't
> worth it to me.
Benefits like not being prone to network hacking?
If you don't have a NAT router, and if you haven't fixed any of the
following vulnerabilities, then your system is just what hackers and
bot-owners are looking for.
See here for the network vulnerabilities of SP1:
http://www.geocities.com/mvea/WXP_sp1.htm
Specifically these:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms04-022.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-039.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms04-011.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms03-043.mspx
How can you use the MS Update web site (and retrive updates) when you
haven't first updated your system to SP-2? Doesn't the update web
site more or less force you to get SP-2 before letting you do anything
else?
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Posted by Art on August 7, 2006, 9:20 am
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>Dustin wrote:
>
>> > ... or maybe you're still running XP-SP1 (or XP-gold).
>>
>> I don't use much of a hosts file,
>
>Why not? It's free, and so are:
Why not? Because I've never found any benefit from fooling
around with it .... just like I find no benefit from dozens of other
things that IE users bury themselves in.
Art
http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg
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Posted by on August 7, 2006, 10:19 am
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Virus Guy wrote:
> Why not? It's free, and so are:
Don't really need one? I rarely surf with IE...
> and have you uninstalled all older versions of Java?
My system never had older versions...
> Benefits like not being prone to network hacking?
I'm behind a linksys NAT router, good luck with the network hacking,
chum.
All ports except for one are not forwarded, uPNP is disabled, remote
access is entirely disabled. Machines inside the lan communicate via
IPSEC to each other.
> How can you use the MS Update web site (and retrive updates) when you
> haven't first updated your system to SP-2? Doesn't the update web
Because the site doesn't force me to use sp-2 yet, not until October.
I really don't need every single update under the sun. I do practice
safe hex, so I'm not concerned because of some new 0day exploit for IE
or ms office package, or a windows media player issue.
The real concerns I have with are the partially open max amount of
sockets; sp2 limits this to 10, this would seriously crampin my
torrenting. :)
Other concerns are running older software... which sp2 doesn't do well
with.
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Dustin
Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool
http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk
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