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Posted by Ernie B. on August 5, 2006, 4:54 pm
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On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 15:40:11 -0500 bettersurfing@usersnospam.org wrote:
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> > Yeah I've got it, thanks. I used Real Player as an infamous example,
> > there are others also.
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> like Windows Media Player doesn't?
>
Sure it does, when I allow it to.
> We all use and recommend Media Player Classic intead with Real Alternative
> and QT alternative, but do we really know the entire program structure?
>
No. I have ZA set to 'ask' on everything except my web browsers, news and
mail clients and AV update. The object of the game is to be aware, and in
control, of what the computer is doing when it's on line.
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Ernie B.
Communication: The art of moving an idea from one mind to another, hopefully
without distortion.
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Posted by Virus Guy on August 5, 2006, 5:38 pm
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"Ernie B." wrote:
> > When are you people gonna learn that?
> >
> When things like Real Player quit trying to call home.
Get "Real Alternative".
http://www.free-codecs.com/download/Real_Alternative.htm
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Posted by Ernie B. on August 5, 2006, 7:21 pm
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> "Ernie B." wrote:
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> > > When are you people gonna learn that?
> > >
> > When things like Real Player quit trying to call home.
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> Get "Real Alternative".
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> http://www.free-codecs.com/download/Real_Alternative.htm
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BT/DT.
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Ernie B.
Communication: The art of moving an idea from one mind to another, hopefully
without distortion.
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Posted by kurt wismer on August 5, 2006, 3:44 pm
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> bettersurfing@usersnospam.org wrote:
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>> Just great - Zone Alarm made me waste about 4 hours ...
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> As I've said before, software firewalls are a useless waste of time
> and computer resources.
usually this is said because malware can (though it doesn't always
bother) disable the software firewall or find some other way to bypass it...
unfortunately that ignores the fact that a) not all malware does and b)
there's plenty of more or less legitimate software that tries to make
outgoing connections that i don't want it to make...
> Get a NAT router (to act as an incoming firewall) and be done with
> it. The incremental benefit of an outgoing software-firewall is
> none-existant.
definitely agree about getting a nat router, but as above, not about
dumping the software firewall... at the very least the redundant system
is useful for fault tolerance ('hey my connection stopped working, maybe
the router's broken, i'll have to try connecting without it to see')...
also, some software firewalls include features that are outside the
scope of a firewall but are useful none-the-less (such as the
application launch whitelisting functionality in kerio)...
> When are you people gonna learn that?
"you people"? probably not the best way to sway opinion...
--
"it's not the right time to be sober
now the idiots have taken over
spreading like a social cancer,
is there an answer?"
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Posted by on August 5, 2006, 4:37 pm
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> Get a NAT router (to act as an incoming firewall) and be done with
> it. The incremental benefit of an outgoing software-firewall is
> none-existant.
>
> When are you people gonna learn that?
My Netgear RP614v3 says it gives SPI and NAT protection and I don't see it
blocking the trojans and spyware that Avast or ZA catches.
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