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NAV setting to prevent virus stopping all incoming mail delivery? news.rcn.com 11-30-2005
Posted by news.rcn.com on November 30, 2005, 12:45 pm
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There seems to be a general denial of service attack going on at the moment
consisting of billions of unlikely-looking virus laden emails being
delivered supposedly from the CIA or FBI

I am receiving about twelve to twenty a day to various mail boxes

Is there a way within NAV of having it simply dump all of them (or all virus
laden emails) in my deleted items folder in Outlook (my junk mail rule
telling it to do this by identifying "your IP is being logged" in the header
does this about 60% of the time already) without stopping all my mail
delivery to tell me how clever it is and how it has detected it? There
doesn't seem to be a rule within Outlook telling it to direct all virus
laden mail to the deleted items folder and for some reason you certainly
cant do this and immediately permanently delete them.



Posted by Duane Arnold on November 30, 2005, 8:41 pm
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"news.rcn.com" <news.rnc.com> wrote in

> There seems to be a general denial of service attack going on at the
> moment consisting of billions of unlikely-looking virus laden emails
> being delivered supposedly from the CIA or FBI
>
> I am receiving about twelve to twenty a day to various mail boxes
>
> Is there a way within NAV of having it simply dump all of them (or all
> virus laden emails) in my deleted items folder in Outlook (my junk
> mail rule telling it to do this by identifying "your IP is being
> logged" in the header does this about 60% of the time already) without
> stopping all my mail delivery to tell me how clever it is and how it
> has detected it? There doesn't seem to be a rule within Outlook
> telling it to direct all virus laden mail to the deleted items folder
> and for some reason you certainly cant do this and immediately
> permanently delete them.
>
>
>

You can use Mailwasher to look at the emails at the POP3 server, it has
virus detection and you can delete the emails at the POP3 server before
you pull them (the good ones) to Outlook, which you can start Outlook
through MailWasher.

So you don't want to start Outlook, you want to configure Outlook to not
send or receive emails at start-up or on a timed basis automatically and
by disabling the auto send/recv emails, it means the you have to use the
Send/Recv button to send emails from the Outbox that was put there by the
Send button and you'll use the Send/Revc button to pull emails from the
POP server that you have filtered with Mailwasher that remain to the
Inbox.

You do that and take the control; the bad emails will never reach the
machine and Outlook so that you have to deal with them with Outlook.

Duane :)

Posted by news.rcn.com on November 30, 2005, 9:18 pm
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> "news.rcn.com" <news.rnc.com> wrote in
>
>> There seems to be a general denial of service attack going on at the
>> moment consisting of billions of unlikely-looking virus laden emails
>> being delivered supposedly from the CIA or FBI
>>
>> I am receiving about twelve to twenty a day to various mail boxes
>>
>> Is there a way within NAV of having it simply dump all of them (or all
>> virus laden emails) in my deleted items folder in Outlook (my junk
>> mail rule telling it to do this by identifying "your IP is being
>> logged" in the header does this about 60% of the time already) without
>> stopping all my mail delivery to tell me how clever it is and how it
>> has detected it? There doesn't seem to be a rule within Outlook
>> telling it to direct all virus laden mail to the deleted items folder
>> and for some reason you certainly cant do this and immediately
>> permanently delete them.
>>
>>
>>
>
> You can use Mailwasher to look at the emails at the POP3 server, it has
> virus detection and you can delete the emails at the POP3 server before
> you pull them (the good ones) to Outlook, which you can start Outlook
> through MailWasher.
>
> So you don't want to start Outlook, you want to configure Outlook to not
> send or receive emails at start-up or on a timed basis automatically and
> by disabling the auto send/recv emails, it means the you have to use the
> Send/Recv button to send emails from the Outbox that was put there by the
> Send button and you'll use the Send/Revc button to pull emails from the
> POP server that you have filtered with Mailwasher that remain to the
> Inbox.
>
> You do that and take the control; the bad emails will never reach the
> machine and Outlook so that you have to deal with them with Outlook.
>
> Duane :)

But that way (stopping whatever I am doing and manually pressing RECEIVE
every few minutes) it is MORE difficult to delete all of them by not
receiving them than by simply highlighting them in outlook and deleting them
en masse once an hour or so. I was looking for a way of configuring outlook
or NAV to delete them automatically or at least dump them into my deleted
items folder automatically?

And installing a separate program which mandates manual use of the receive
function might tend to sorta encourage you to become neurotic about pressing
RECEIVE every few minutes when that can be done automatically when connected
with broadband service. Having the bad emails get to my machine isn't the
worst part, the worst part is when there is this denial of service attack,
having to delete them en masse every hour or so AND having my email stop
while NAV annoys me by trying to tell me how clever it is.



Posted by Duane Arnold on November 30, 2005, 10:23 pm
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"news.rcn.com" <news.rnc.com> wrote in

>
>> "news.rcn.com" <news.rnc.com> wrote in
>>
>>> There seems to be a general denial of service attack going on at the
>>> moment consisting of billions of unlikely-looking virus laden emails
>>> being delivered supposedly from the CIA or FBI
>>>
>>> I am receiving about twelve to twenty a day to various mail boxes
>>>
>>> Is there a way within NAV of having it simply dump all of them (or
>>> all virus laden emails) in my deleted items folder in Outlook (my
>>> junk mail rule telling it to do this by identifying "your IP is
>>> being logged" in the header does this about 60% of the time already)
>>> without stopping all my mail delivery to tell me how clever it is
>>> and how it has detected it? There doesn't seem to be a rule within
>>> Outlook telling it to direct all virus laden mail to the deleted
>>> items folder and for some reason you certainly cant do this and
>>> immediately permanently delete them.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> You can use Mailwasher to look at the emails at the POP3 server, it
>> has virus detection and you can delete the emails at the POP3 server
>> before you pull them (the good ones) to Outlook, which you can start
>> Outlook through MailWasher.
>>
>> So you don't want to start Outlook, you want to configure Outlook to
>> not send or receive emails at start-up or on a timed basis
>> automatically and by disabling the auto send/recv emails, it means
>> the you have to use the Send/Recv button to send emails from the
>> Outbox that was put there by the Send button and you'll use the
>> Send/Revc button to pull emails from the POP server that you have
>> filtered with Mailwasher that remain to the Inbox.
>>
>> You do that and take the control; the bad emails will never reach the
>> machine and Outlook so that you have to deal with them with Outlook.
>>
>> Duane :)
>
> But that way (stopping whatever I am doing and manually pressing
> RECEIVE every few minutes) it is MORE difficult to delete all of them
> by not receiving them than by simply highlighting them in outlook and
> deleting them en masse once an hour or so. I was looking for a way of
> configuring outlook or NAV to delete them automatically or at least
> dump them into my deleted items folder automatically?

You put Mailwasher in the automatic mode and it will go to the POP3
server and show you the emails that are sitting there every 30 seconds, 1
minute or 30 minutes.
>
> And installing a separate program which mandates manual use of the
> receive function might tend to sorta encourage you to become neurotic
> about pressing RECEIVE every few minutes when that can be done
> automatically when connected with broadband service.

I never had that problem so I don't think so and I was sure not setting
there pushing the Send/Recv button like you think, because Mailwasher was
notifying me about new emails with its icon sitting in the job trey. I
click the notication icon MW shows its main screen of the emails setting
at the POP3, I can view the email, mark it or them for deleteion, push
the Process button delete everything, Outlook starts up and Send/Recv
what's left.

> Having the bad
> emails get to my machine isn't the worst part, the worst part is when
> there is this denial of service attack, having to delete them en masse
> every hour or so AND having my email stop while NAV annoys me by
> trying to tell me how clever it is.

I had 100's upon 1,000's of emails when there was that email crisis back
a couple of years ago sitting at the POP3 server and I never and no DOS
attack and went on about my business like nothing was even happening as
Mailwasher filtered everything and knocked it down. And NOD32 never went
off either because the emails never reach the machine for NOD32 to go off
as they were deleted at the POP3 server by Mailwasher.

Some very powerful rules can be set to filter the emails. The thing is
don't let them reach the machine where you have to use Outlook or NAV to
deal with it.

You should check out the full trial version and test drive.

It can't hurt you may like it. I have not had a email virus reach any of
my machines using MW in years.

Duane :)





Posted by Roy Starrin on December 1, 2005, 8:04 am
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On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 12:45:04 -0500, "news.rcn.com" <news.rnc.com>
wrote:

>There seems to be a general denial of service attack going on at the moment
>consisting of billions of unlikely-looking virus laden emails being
>delivered supposedly from the CIA or FBI
>
Snip
>
>Is there a way within NAV of having it simply dump all of them (or all virus
>laden emails) in my deleted items folder in Outlook

I don't/won't use Outlook and haven't seen one of the emails, but
isn't there a way you can set a filter on Outlook that would
automatically do this, based on the Subj (if there is a common word or
words you could filter), or even if the text contains FBI and/or CIA
(unless you get lots of mail concerning either)
Time to change email client????
Just a thought, YMMV

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