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Posted by Sugien on January 26, 2008, 2:33 pm
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>>>>>>> On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 15:43:14 -0500, "Sugien"
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>>>>>>>>"Laura Fredericks" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>Have you all seen the bushy-browed one's latest post in ahm? He
>>>>>>>>>admits being an extortionist! What a sleazeball! And an army
>>>>>>>>>vet, at that!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"How many here have read years ago about my little device which
>>>>>>>>>I used to make money during playoffs by turning off TVs during
>>>>>>>>>playoff season and then going into a sports bar and having them
>>>>>>>>>pay me to fix their TV?"
>>>>>>>>> -Sugien in alt.hackers.malicious on 1/14/08
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Yes I did that back in my early 20's which is over 30 years ago
>>>>>>>>So fricken what!
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>>>>>>> Admission to extortion noted.
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>>>>>> So what did happen with the picture gallery?
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>>>>> iirc, she *said* that she took it down on her own, but I have my
>>>>> doubts. She does still have all the illegal web captures from my
>>>>> web cam up on a geocities page. She even jokes on the page;
>>>>
>>>> She already replied to my question, and I have no reason to doubt
>>>> her claims. Only the one in so far as either of us having anything
>>>> to do with it. I know neither of us did. :)
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>> ???? You know I sent in a DMCA to Angelfire; before she agreed to take
>> it down; because I sent you a copy of what I sent did I not? I still
>> don't know if that is why it was removed or not.
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> Yes, I know you sent one. The thing is tho, if they had acted on your
> DMCA notice, the site would have been downed withen 2 days. Not a week or
> more later. :)
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> Unless you sent another one?
I don't think I did; but my memory is getting a tad lazy;)
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>> I had nothing against it ether other then she refused to obey her own
>> instructions about removing my image. I had even emailed her telling
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> Which was also my beef with her. She was intentionally ignoring your
> request, even tho she wrote that she'd remove pictures if asked to do so.
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>> her in a joking manner something about like this "Laura you never
>> know, you could remove my image like I am asking and then I could just
>> as well send you one to put up". It wasn't only because she was using
>> it without permission that irked me; but rather her blatant "I am
>> going to keep it up and there isn't one dammed thing you can do about
>> it" attitude which I objected to. I think I showed that when I sent
>> her a picture to use after she acquiesced and took my image down.
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>>>>> I have decided to no longer send in any DCMA for hero worship pages
>>>>> like hers because it only goes to show that she is infatuated with
>>>>> me.
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>>>> I'm glad to hear it. I only sent 1 dmca notice to 4Q's hosting
>>>> provider over the picture, and that's primarily because he dared me
>>>> to try. Otherwise, I don't send those things to anyone.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> However maybe and only maybe if and or when I my rich uncle dies
>>>>> in
>>>>> the poor house or I get some ginormous inheritance or hit the
>>>>> lottery or some other way that I get not only rich but wealthy I
>>>>> may at that time see the page in a different light; but I sincerely
>>>>> doubt it;
>>>>
>>>> Personally, I'd just let it be. Laura isn't completely bad you know.
>>>> Yes,
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>> hmmm, maybe 99.999% because I don't know of anyone that is completely
>> bad;) Actually I would agree if she were to have the same intestinal
>> fortitude Q had when he admitted to being in the wrong for attacking
>> my wife and family and if she were to apologize like what he did, it
>> would go a long way in my book to change my opinion of her. Sadly
>> however I think in her mind she has done no wrong and that truly is a
>> sad think for her; because attacking someone that is undeserved of
>> such an attack is bad enough but to be either so self centered to do
>> such a thing or even worse to attack an innocent as a way to try and
>> attack a third party by proxy is one of the lowest forms of attack.
>>
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>>>> she makes wiseass remarks concerning your family; but you did kinda
>>>> invite that. You shouldn't discuss your family in a troll
>>>> environment. I
>>
>> Simply telling someone that the person that crossed behind you in a
>> live web cam shot does not or at least should not to civil people
>> invite attacks against them. I never discussed my family until
>> *after* they were attacked and only then to defend them; because of
>> their having absolutely nothing to do with the whole thing.
>>
>>>> still occasionally remind my mom how foolish her posts to usenet
>>>> were. Yes, she really made them, and she thought she was doing it
>>>> for my benefit. Understandable, but not necessary.
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>> Your mom posted to Usenet; but my wife did *not* there is quite a huge
>> difference! And to attack a persons children, under age children at
>> that is quite uncalled for. Expressly seeing as how my youngest that
>> was attacked was only iirc 13-15 at the time, Well lets see she
>> turned 19 late last year, so you can do the math.
>>
>>>>
>>>>> because in the final analysis her poor excuse for a tribute page is
>>>>> nothing more then the delusional ramblings of a want to be drama
>>>>> queen
>>>>
>>>> Sugien, Laura *IS* a drama queen. She'd even tell you as much. :)
>>
>> Again there is a differance between being a drama queen and being a
>> hatefull one, that attacks a persons wife and children which are
>> non-combatents
>>>>
>>>> Really, as long as I've known her over usenet and even with all the
>>>> fights I had with her during my raid days, I still don't think badly
>>>> of her.
>>
>> Like I said, even 4Q had the guts and knew and *admitted* he crossed
>> the line and even then without Laura's egging him on he may not have
>> crossed the line; but it was Laura that put him onto bringing my wife
>> into the foray in the first place , iirc, and then after he crossed
>> the line she joined him there. But as I said at least Q, redeemed
>> himself, well at least as far as I am concerned when he admitted his
>> wrong doing and his apology
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>>>>> whose life is so lonely it is filled with the quiet desperation of
>>>>> a life that has passed he by with only the memory of dead cats and
>>>>
>>>> I suspect she has a social life of sorts. Everbody does, even you.
>>>> :)
>>
>> I have been spending less and less time on my computer; because I have
>> been devoting more and more time to helping people in my community. I
>> have been using most of my time online in discussions concerning
>> religion; because it is far more important then any petty differences
>> in most of these groups. I have found however that even the religious
>> study groups are being infiltrated with trolls, all be it trolls of a
>> different kind; because they are admitted agnostics and atheists that
>> come into groups that believe in God and try and tell the regulars
>> that they are foolish for believing in God; but then I guess it is
>> sort of like virus writers and or virus releasers coming into an
>> anti-virus group and releasing source code or advocating the writing
>> and or releasing of virus.
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>>>>
>>>> Another reason why I respect Laura sugien is because she knows you
>>>> and I are old associates from a long time ago, and I didn't attack
>>>> her to get "favor" with you or ahm. I think I treated you as I would
>>>> have wanted to be treated in that case. You had a valid issue with
>>>> Laura and asked if I could help, being as I know her.
>>>>
>>>> I still think the issue is resolved,and you and Laura have no need
>>>> to continue this pointless fight.
>>
>> See above about 4Q and his admitting to going across the line and
>> apologizing and Laura although not being quite as blatant about it
>> none the less imho, likewise crossed the line; because of my wife and
>> kids being non-combatants.
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>> Besides, 4Q is the focal point now. Let's not lose track. :)
>>>>
>>> shhhh, you will have 4q thinking we are doing something behind the
>>> seams to out him or something, lol
>>>
>>> As for Laura, About the only thing I ever objected to was her
>>> attacks
>>> on my wife and children; because my wife has never posted on Usenet a
>>> single solitary time, and the only time she was mentioned at all was
>>> when she inadvertently walked behind me when I was running my live
>>> web cam and I was asked who she was and I said she was my wife the
>>> insults and taunts started because my Wife has health problems with
>>> diabetes and thyroid and is over the normal weight for her height and
>>> body type.
>>> At least 4q to his credit when he went over the line (egged on by
>>> Laura iirc) did eventually apologize. I can not only forgive but
>>> forget; but forgiveness has the request of the person admitting to
>>> their self and the person whom they attacked that they were in the
>>> wrong for attacking someone that was not only a non-combatant but
>>> doesn't even like computers or use one or post to Usenet. She knows
>>> she went across the line in attacking my wife; but for what ever
>>> reason just like the picture when she is in the wrong she tries to
>>> not only hide it from the online community; but also from herself so
>>> that she can think in her own mind at least that she has done nothing
>>> wrong.
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