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Best antivirus omicron91 08-20-2006
Posted by kurt wismer on August 21, 2006, 9:57 am
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Art wrote:
> >Art wrote:
> >
> >> Here's a free av which uses the Kaspersky v6 scan engine:
> >>
> >> http://www.activevirusshield.com/antivirus/freeav/index.adp?
> >>
> >
> >This looks almost too good to be true. Perhaps it is...
> >
>
>http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9002564
>
> I've not been able to discover any problems resulting from installing
> and using the AVS product. If more spam is directed my way, I'm
> not seeing it, perhaps because my ISP filters it. There is no
> detectable spyware installed. The notion that it's actually some sort
> of undetectable rootkit is pretty far fetched, IMO.

more than far fetched, it's not what the article is actually saying...
the comparison to the sony rootkit is not because it contains a rootkit
but because it contains a flaw that could be abused by malware just as
the sony rootkit was able to be abused by malware...

but from my reading of the article, that and the EULA are the only
things that are bad about it...


Posted by Art on August 21, 2006, 1:26 pm
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wrote:

>Art wrote:
>> >Art wrote:
>> >
>> >> Here's a free av which uses the Kaspersky v6 scan engine:
>> >>
>> >> http://www.activevirusshield.com/antivirus/freeav/index.adp?
>> >>
>> >
>> >This looks almost too good to be true. Perhaps it is...
>> >
>>
>http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9002564
>>
>> I've not been able to discover any problems resulting from installing
>> and using the AVS product. If more spam is directed my way, I'm
>> not seeing it, perhaps because my ISP filters it. There is no
>> detectable spyware installed. The notion that it's actually some sort
>> of undetectable rootkit is pretty far fetched, IMO.
>
>more than far fetched, it's not what the article is actually saying...
>the comparison to the sony rootkit is not because it contains a rootkit
>but because it contains a flaw that could be abused by malware just as
>the sony rootkit was able to be abused by malware...
>
>but from my reading of the article, that and the EULA are the only
>things that are bad about it...

I didn't say that the article claimed AVS is a rootkit. It claims
there is a potential problem with the toolbar option. I've been
continually warning people to not opt for the toolbar during
installation.

In bringing up the Sony issue, the article is scaring people
unnecessarily, IMO. People will make the connection/association
to rootkits. That's the issue I addressed ... the implications of
the article ... not what it actually claimed.

Art

Posted by kurt wismer on August 21, 2006, 2:46 pm
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Art wrote:
[snip]
> I didn't say that the article claimed AVS is a rootkit. It claims
> there is a potential problem with the toolbar option. I've been
> continually warning people to not opt for the toolbar during
> installation.
>
> In bringing up the Sony issue, the article is scaring people
> unnecessarily, IMO. People will make the connection/association
> to rootkits. That's the issue I addressed ... the implications of
> the article ... not what it actually claimed.

sorry, i didn't and still don't see that implication... if one reads
the article carelessly one could easily come away with that notion, but
that doesn't really have anything to do with the article...

anyways, this disagreement seems to be about the nature of implication
so i'm sure you'll think it pointless... i know what you mean in the
text above, i just think there's a difference between an aticle
implying something and people reading too much into the article...


Posted by optikl on August 21, 2006, 9:58 am
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Art wrote:

> I've not been able to discover any problems resulting from installing
> and using the AVS product. If more spam is directed my way, I'm
> not seeing it, perhaps because my ISP filters it. There is no
> detectable spyware installed. The notion that it's actually some sort
> of undetectable rootkit is pretty far fetched, IMO. It uninstalls/
> reinstalls easily and cleanly on my Win 2K machine. You can't say
> that about Norton and McAfee which are the actual "too good to
> be true" products which have caused users much grief :)
>
> I saw nothing new or of any substance in that magazine article.
>
> Art

I rather doubt Kaspersky would risk damaging its reputation by allowing
AOL to license its program, without knowing exactly how it will be
offered. Just because it's offered through AOL doesn't mean it's
embedded with rootkits.

Posted by Ben Alias on August 21, 2006, 12:46 pm
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>On 20 Aug 2006 17:54:22 -0700, omicron91@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>My girlfriend needs an antivirus suite for her laptop and we need
>>something good, but not Norton antivirus (we have both had nothing but
>>bad experiences with it). In any case, any good recommendations, price
>>isn't too much of an issue but something relatively cheap would be
>>nice, thanks.
>
>Here's a free av which uses the Kaspersky v6 scan engine:
>
>http://www.activevirusshield.com/antivirus/freeav/index.adp?
>
>It lacks the proactive defense and the web protection modules
>of the version 6 Kaspersky product, but it's quite good and
>effective. Just don't opt for the toolbar during installation.
>
>See my web site for a Kaspersky product link.
>
>Art
>http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg


Dear Art,

Back in September of 2005 you posted a message in alt.comp.freeware
that explained how to use Kaspersky to scan on demand using mwave.exe
, wget.exe , and a batch file to update the virus definitions that
contained the lines:

wget -N ftp://updates1.kaspersky-labs.com/updates_x/*.avc
wget -N ftp://updates1.kaspersky-labs.com/updates_x/avp.*

I am just wondering whether you would kindly explain the difference
between this 9/05 method and the AOL method you mentioned in your
recent post.

C'ya,

Ben



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